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Check 1972. Very low batting averages in the league. The 80s were much more prolific...

Posted on September 2, 2026 at 01:13:58 PM by Rich

That is captured in your ERA plus but not in the other stats.

Also am not sure the HOF uses best four seasons. I'm not sure what best 3 or best 7 would show for example.

Also longevity is a factor and Morris went longer. And he had qualitative accomplishments.

I say this as a person who loved Lolich, one of my top 3-4 Tigers of all time. Morris was not.

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Interesting comp, Jack Morris vs. Mickey Lolich, who you got?* - By MasterBates September 2, 2026 at 12:33:00 PM
- Lolich* - By Ev September 2, 2026 at 03:43:56 PM
- The pride of Portland, Oregon* - By gratefultread September 2, 2026 at 01:23:58 PM
- Lolich by a lot. I’m not sure that’s even close, you know? - By brick September 2, 2026 at 12:40:08 PM
  - Closer than that. Lolich's '68 series was epic, but Morris was on three WS-winning teams and was an MVP of one as well. He has more wins, but also the highest ERA of any pitcher in the HoF.* - By BigLake September 2, 2026 at 12:43:27 PM
    - C’mon. Morris’s top 4 seasons vs Lolich’s: - By brick September 2, 2026 at 12:52:41 PM
      - I love Lolich but late 60s/early 70s was a pitcher era/poor hitting. 80s was the opposite* - By Rich September 2, 2026 at 12:58:08 PM
        
        Lolich was the better pitcher.* - By MasterBates September 2, 2026 at 01:09:52 PM
        
        1968 was, but shortly after that the leagues lowered the mound - By brick September 2, 2026 at 01:02:34 PM
        
        Check 1972. Very low batting averages in the league. The 80s were much more prolific... - By Rich September 2, 2026 at 01:13:58 PM
        
        Lolich was a better pitcher overall, but it's not as if he was dramatically better. He was not.* - By BigLake September 2, 2026 at 01:35:25 PM

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