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No doubt the Tiger D was strong up the middle. Not great on the edges though but middle matters more

Posted on September 2, 2026 at 03:19:37 PM by Rich

Herndon seemed ok, Brookens was pretty good (although Castillo and Hojo at 3rd as well as Coles were not). Evans was no longer very good. Gibson was below average.

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Crossing the streams, I think the 1984 Tigers were similar to the 2004 Pistons in that they were teams that had a whole bunch of minor stars and no real superstar - By Paul September 2, 2026 at 02:17:24 PM
- Alan Trammell was 4th in league WAR, Chet Lemon was 7th, and Willie Hernandez had one of the best seasons for a closer in the history of the game to that point. Like the Pistons, tho, I don’t think their true greatness was recognized until the analytics-era** - By Brad September 2, 2026 at 02:41:34 PM
  - 4th in bWAR despite missing 20 games. The thing I’m going to harp on is that it’s not just WAR. In 1984 Trammell hit .314/.382/.468 - By brick September 2, 2026 at 02:49:00 PM
    - His getting robbed of the 87 MVP by George Bell made a big difference I think* - By Rich September 2, 2026 at 02:54:17 PM
      - Ev’s hot take: Wade Boggs should’ve been MVP that year. Not trammell or bell.* - By Ev September 2, 2026 at 03:21:19 PM
      - Agree* - By brick September 2, 2026 at 02:59:16 PM
        
        Man, he hit .343!! 953 OPS to 957 for Bell while playing SS. - By Rich September 2, 2026 at 03:03:26 PM
        
        NL vote that year was bad too, though Dawson was a very sympathetic figure - By brick September 2, 2026 at 03:18:08 PM
- Trammell was a superstar and should’ve been considered one at the time - By brick September 2, 2026 at 02:21:48 PM
  - Unfortunately Tram decided to have his best season the same year Cal Ripken had one of the top-5 seasons of all time for a shortstop* - By Brad September 2, 2026 at 02:44:32 PM
    - Ripken OPS+ 112, Trammell 110. GG 4-2 Tram. Ripken first ballot, Trammell had to wait for old timers - By Rich September 2, 2026 at 02:59:26 PM
      - The meta-narrative for you and Paul. In the Whitaker/Tranmell/Lemon era, the Tigers’ pitchers consistently had ERAs that were below, often WELL below their FIPs (eg 1984; 3.74 FIP, 3.49 ERA). They also usually had excellent - By brick September 2, 2026 at 03:08:58 PM
        
        No doubt the Tiger D was strong up the middle. Not great on the edges though but middle matters more - By Rich September 2, 2026 at 03:19:37 PM

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