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You're not wrong but I'll give you another example. Way back in 1987, Miami Fl. barely beat a 3-7-1 Toledo team 24-14. It was 17-14 until a Miami player ran a fumble back at the very end

Posted on September 6, 2026 at 12:29:28 AM by brick

That was a dominant, 12-0 national champion Miami team. Toledo outgained them per play too.

It's not a great sign but sometimes teams are flat.

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Still coming to terms with the end, which I just learned about. Jon is right unfortunately about baseline adjustment -- that was the 2008 offense on one of its bad days - By Paul September 6, 2026 at 12:08:38 AM
- 2 years ago, Notre Dame lost at home to Northern Illinois 16-14. They were outgained 5.9-4.7 yards per play. ND won their next 13 straight games - By brick September 6, 2026 at 12:13:32 AM
  - that's an outlier. 9/10 that data indicates a bad to mediocre team* - By Daytripper September 6, 2026 at 12:19:27 AM
    - You're not wrong but I'll give you another example. Way back in 1987, Miami Fl. barely beat a 3-7-1 Toledo team 24-14. It was 17-14 until a Miami player ran a fumble back at the very end - By brick September 6, 2026 at 12:29:28 AM
  - I mean that's a good point but I can't shake how utterly awful the OL was. We KNOW Marshall is a great college back. The pass blocking was arguably even worse. Bryce looks totally lost out there - By Paul September 6, 2026 at 12:17:08 AM
- Agreed. A gifted Hail Mary conversion flips our record but no other takeaways from the game. The defense, the punter and Buchanan looked good though* - By LewisBullox September 6, 2026 at 12:12:33 AM
- basically took a 100 year ref cockup to get lucky enough to win it. this was really bad and yea, the biden debate is a fair comparison imo - By Daytripper September 6, 2026 at 12:10:16 AM

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