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Because he wanted to evolve this offense is my guess. Saban went from pro style to more spread. Is your insinuation that Urban had no success with the spread in the Big10?*

Posted on September 21, 2026 at 03:32:16 PM by MasterBates

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Brian's metagame theory that Beck's offensive structure (jet/qb power) was so successful across the sport the last few seasons that defensive coordinators spent this offseason figuring out how to counter it is interesting. Hopefully we see more of the second half UTEP adjustments moving forward.* - By yarn September 21, 2026 at 02:24:15 PM
- Funky is the master of the hot take* - By Poster P September 21, 2026 at 02:45:57 PM
- DCs have not learned how to stop what offensive scheme?* - By MasterBates September 21, 2026 at 02:35:15 PM
  - Read option where the RBs run a lot of jet action and the QB is the main interior run threat. Def not only Beck who runs that*** - By Craig September 21, 2026 at 03:03:47 PM
    - DCs have the strategy stop all of these schemes. It comes down to personnel and execution.* - By MasterBates September 21, 2026 at 03:24:21 PM
      - True. But it also comes down to constraints and counter-adjustments (If/when they make X adjustment, we’ll take advantage by doing Y. Etc.)*** - By Craig September 21, 2026 at 04:16:37 PM
- I hope so. Watching the condensed game last night the offensive line did a great job in pass pro in the 2nd half. Granted UTEP - By Daytripper September 21, 2026 at 02:32:55 PM
- I think it’s more likely we don’t have the reads down* - By harbaughdyssey September 21, 2026 at 02:30:51 PM
  - Yeah, my general feeling is that we are still paying OC transition costs.** - By dnvrblue September 21, 2026 at 03:19:28 PM
- LOL, one year each at Syracuse, New Mexico and Utah is several seasons? So successful that no OC has imitated it.* - By Rich September 21, 2026 at 02:27:49 PM
  - Rich, you're letting your hate boner for Jason Beck blind the point Funky is making.* - By Bluebuck September 21, 2026 at 02:36:39 PM
    - agree * - By Nikos September 21, 2026 at 02:38:39 PM
  - He’s talking about a qb vertical run scheme with jet motion attached. It is more than just beck that has had success with it over the last few years * - By WOK September 21, 2026 at 02:33:10 PM
  - What are you talking about. Ferris state runs power read/jet and has won 4 of the last 5 national championships with it. Urban also ran heavy QB power offenses to great success at OSU. To name a few very successful variations of this offensive philosophy.* - By yarn September 21, 2026 at 02:33:01 PM
  - that's not the point Funky is making Rich. * - By Nikos September 21, 2026 at 02:30:25 PM
    - So the point is, the offense isn't very good but it is tough to defend? Syracuse and New Mexico were not good offenses.... - By Rich September 21, 2026 at 02:33:40 PM
      - no, that successful plays at lower levels might not translate to Michigan (B1G opponents) and Beck is learning that in real time * - By Nikos September 21, 2026 at 02:36:05 PM
        
        The spread won't work in the Big10, Urban proceeds to almost go undefeated with for 7 years. The 3-3-5 is moronic for the Big10! Sure it is.* - By MasterBates September 21, 2026 at 02:52:38 PM
        
        then why did he hire Day?* - By 6p September 21, 2026 at 03:30:08 PM
        
        Because he wanted to evolve this offense is my guess. Saban went from pro style to more spread. Is your insinuation that Urban had no success with the spread in the Big10?* - By MasterBates September 21, 2026 at 03:32:16 PM
        
        that's precisely the point of this thread. it's become easier because of how defenses adapt . every DC has the template now (instead of being an unique thing)* - By 6p September 21, 2026 at 03:49:58 PM
        
        So spreads had a shelf life of a few years?* - By MasterBates September 21, 2026 at 04:01:08 PM
        
        That argument is based on two cupcakes and one elite defense OOC game?* - By harbaughdyssey September 21, 2026 at 02:43:11 PM
        
        yeah i don’t understand this argument. if this was post iowa/indiana sure but i think the clear answer right now is transition cost - By DetUMICH September 21, 2026 at 03:45:05 PM
        
        that Michigan is going to get your most special scout, not Syracuse or UNM * - By Nikos September 21, 2026 at 02:45:21 PM
        
        Utah is a big 12 top dog program. I’d think there are many more plausible explanations - By harbaughdyssey September 21, 2026 at 02:56:01 PM
        
        sure could be. just trying to translate the Funky argument * - By Nikos September 21, 2026 at 02:57:46 PM
        
        I heard Brian’s take as not so much about defenses having something special for Michigan, but just that they’ve figured out how to defend this type of offensive approach. - By Craig September 21, 2026 at 03:18:33 PM
        
        Hopefully. Rhino usage will be interesting to watch* - By Rich September 21, 2026 at 02:36:38 PM
        
        Hoffman went from 77% of snaps to 20% * - By Nikos September 21, 2026 at 02:38:29 PM
        
        Beigel from 79% to 41% * - By Nikos September 21, 2026 at 02:39:42 PM
        
        Cut those by another 70 percent and I'm good :) * - By Rich September 21, 2026 at 03:44:53 PM
    - he is saying Beck imported that lower caste offense expecting it to work but Michigan opponents won't let it. he is agreeing with you that Beck needs to learn. he's not saying everyone is paying close attention to SU/UNM/UU etc * - By Nikos September 21, 2026 at 02:31:58 PM
      - yea, and Michigan has access to elite TEs. it's in our DNA. you don't need to put another blocker who's not a threat w/ the ball* - By 6p September 21, 2026 at 02:33:27 PM
        
        Opening my wallet to find a dearth of elite TEs. Where are they?!?* - By WOK September 21, 2026 at 02:37:41 PM
        
        Marshall, Hansen, Tonielli all have shown potential in the past.* - By Rich September 21, 2026 at 04:52:44 PM
        
        wait we cant sell our TE tradition to recruitts?* - By 6p September 21, 2026 at 03:20:16 PM

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