Since 2000, MSU is 69-81 (.460) in 13 seasons without Mark Dantonio and 114-57 (.667) in 13 seasons with Mark Dantonio.

Posted on August 21, 2026 at 11:42:49 AM by LS&Play (edited August 21, 2026 at 11:44:24 AM)

8-5 against Michigan under Dantonio and 3-10 otherwise. That job is total SHIT. Dantonio was a scumbag but an all-time miracle worker. Benefitted a ton from Michigan and PSU both being way down through most of those years and really declined post-2015 when they got their act together.

There is no hope for them unless there's a second Cignetti, and probably not even then.

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Since 2000, MSU is 69-81 (.460) in 13 seasons without Mark Dantonio and 114-57 (.667) in 13 seasons with Mark Dantonio. - By LS&Play August 21, 2026 at 11:42:49 AM
- I choose to believe the theory that Dantonio's ability to develop 3-stars primarily came down to juicing them to the gills.* - By doctor_klopek August 21, 2026 at 12:16:51 PM
  - He was also tight with the Tressels and Jim funneled players he didn't have room for to Dantonio - By Rich August 21, 2026 at 12:19:55 PM
  - his defense was outstanding with Big Ten refs that let his DBs tackle WRs on every play - By DoctorD August 21, 2026 at 12:19:37 PM
- I feel there is a case for Mark Dantonio as a top-5 all-time B1G coach. He was nearly Cig before Cig. That 2013 team could have been the last pre-CFP champion * - By Nikos August 21, 2026 at 12:04:59 PM
  - Just another James Bond villain. - By Cap August 21, 2026 at 12:19:55 PM
  - He's up there. And they were a good team but still would have been blown the fuck out by FSU in the title game. That 2013 FSU team is underrated for their dominance.* - By LS&Play August 21, 2026 at 12:06:12 PM
    - Yes I understand the counter. Heisman Jameis vs Connor Cock * - By Nikos August 21, 2026 at 12:07:55 PM
- The Dantonio 'run' vs Michigan.... - By Rich August 21, 2026 at 11:59:25 AM
  - It also overlaps heavily with a down era for PSU (end of Paterno, Bill O'Brien, first couple years of Franklin)* - By doctor_klopek August 21, 2026 at 12:21:47 PM
  - even a declining Dantonio beat Jim twice, in Ann Arbor! He was elite * - By Nikos August 21, 2026 at 12:06:12 PM
  - He did have absurd luck. The 2013 and 2015 teams were both 20th in SP+, which is basically where the 2017 Michigan team finished.* - By LS&Play August 21, 2026 at 12:05:13 PM
    - I agree he was much more a results winner than predictive. But U play 2 win and are judged thusly * - By Nikos August 21, 2026 at 12:08:58 PM
      - Will Fitzy win 10 games once at MSU? - By LS&Play August 21, 2026 at 12:11:49 PM
        
        Over how many seasons?*** - By Craig August 21, 2026 at 12:25:26 PM
        
        Could be 4, could be 38. He will never go 10-2 or better in a regular season.* - By LS&Play August 21, 2026 at 12:43:58 PM
        
        Oh, in a season. Yeah, definitely not*** - By Craig August 21, 2026 at 01:01:24 PM
- all because we gave a great opening for him. he capitalized and kept dominating until Jimmy* - By 6p August 21, 2026 at 11:56:47 AM
- it’s a shit program in a shit town with shit fans and shit results* - By Poster P August 21, 2026 at 11:44:29 AM

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Since 2000, MSU is 69-81 (.460) in 13 seasons without Mark Dantonio and 114-57 (.667) in 13 seasons with Mark Dantonio.