My analogy....

Posted on September 14, 2026 at 02:57:36 PM by Rich

In 2022, we had Schoonmaker and Loveland at TE. Our 3 WR were Bell, C Johnson and Wilson.

We *occasionally* (couple plays) put a 6th OL in or Bredeson as an H back in 2022.

But if you run 6 OL plus Hoffman (a fake TE) for 7 spots, that would be like Harbaugh running out:
his 5 OL
plus Jones
plus Honigford

and only having 2 of Bell, Wilson, Johnson, Loveland, Schoonmaker on the field.

In 2023, it was Loveland and Barner at TE and 2 WR were Wilson, CJ and Morgan (the good Morgan)/Morris. So 2 of those 5.

Either way, if you run 6 OL and a Honigford type you are leaving guys off the field. Perhaps Barner (or Schoon) were good enough to play for Hoffman in this offense and maybe a healthy Hansen would replace Hoffman. But that would still make Loveland an extra player in this offense like Marshall is.

Or take your 3rd WR off the field.

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Offensive problems: Candidates for blame are talent, scheme, play calling, execution, and Bryce - By Paul September 14, 2026 at 02:47:04 PM
- OL is ass * - By crumbs September 14, 2026 at 03:30:44 PM
- Our O-Line isn't very good (yet?). Penalties, pass blocking whiffs, plenty of room for improvement.* - By jim4blue September 14, 2026 at 03:21:24 PM
- I would say execution is the biggest culprit, but the cause of execution issues is a scheme change and lack of confidence in executing the new scheme.* - By Bluebuck September 14, 2026 at 03:15:52 PM
  - 90% this, 10% miscalculation by coaches in how to execute the scheme change.* - By DetUMICH September 14, 2026 at 03:57:51 PM
- Lack of attacking the seams is again a problem. No vertical threats, no "clear" routes. I'd give anything to see some real route concepts, not just "hey BU if your 1st option isn't open run"* - By Daytripper September 14, 2026 at 03:06:44 PM
  - They need to fire Ron Bellamy as the wideout coach* - By detroitbry September 14, 2026 at 03:11:29 PM
    - He's not the WR coach, you know* - By Rich September 14, 2026 at 03:18:40 PM
      - in that case, they should hire Ron Bellamy as our WR coach.* - By jonpc September 14, 2026 at 03:41:49 PM
        
        at least they will block* - By Rich September 14, 2026 at 04:54:14 PM
    - I wouldn't be opposed, haven't seen much development out of his guys* - By Daytripper September 14, 2026 at 03:15:09 PM
      - I assume bry is joking, Ron Bellamy is not our WR coach anymore. he is off-field DPP. * - By Nikos September 14, 2026 at 03:19:10 PM
        
        Ah, I'm too old to follow all the coaching stuff anymore, we've had mediocre WR development for decades, seems institutional at this point* - By Daytripper September 14, 2026 at 03:22:55 PM
- I will just say I hate that the running backs are running the jet motion so much. I believe they are more effective running perpendicular to the LOS. * - By Kevin September 14, 2026 at 02:55:37 PM
- Utah had the number 2 rushing attack in the nation last year. IMO the primary issue is execution from players learning a new system.* - By WOK September 14, 2026 at 02:55:07 PM
  - They had the number2 rushing attack in the nation last year because they had 2 running quarterbacks that totaled over 1300 yards. * - By Kevin September 14, 2026 at 02:59:13 PM
    - I don’t really get your point. Isn’t the main issue on offense the fact that the running backs are not getting the production we expect? Higher level expectations like WR production beyond JJ will work itself out, but we need to get the yards on the ground are there to be taken if we block correctl* - By WOK September 14, 2026 at 03:09:50 PM
      - I believe they are misusing the running backs. That's what I said above. You can disagree, but I think the point is clear. If you want Bryce to run 18 times a game, then you should be happy. * - By Kevin September 14, 2026 at 03:29:05 PM
        
        Ah, I agree Jordan Marshall should not be running sideline-to-sideline* - By WOK September 14, 2026 at 03:38:42 PM
    - Wayshawn Parker, RB, 149 carries, 1015 yards, 6.6 YPA?* - By WOK September 14, 2026 at 03:04:00 PM
    - and Dampier isn't a good thrower. Bryce is a 5 star who can fling it 70 yards. - By Rich September 14, 2026 at 03:01:54 PM
      - I slightly disagree here. I want him to be able to take more shots as well, but he should still grow regardless. - By jfitz September 14, 2026 at 03:11:52 PM
- the Rich on my shoulder says neophyte Beck has crapped his pants taking an elite RB/WR room off the field in favor of Rhino junk. the McQ on my shoulder says I did not appreciate the learning curve of transitioning from Sherrone O to Beck O * - By Nikos September 14, 2026 at 02:49:31 PM
  - I'm willing to give him the entire season and see how the offense progresses/improves. I don't think(hope) someone can have his statistical offensive track record (albeit short) without knowing how to construct an offense.* - By yarn September 14, 2026 at 02:57:23 PM
    - Should a top 10 program be running a gimmick offense with a 5 star QB, a good backup QB and talented skill position players? - By Rich September 14, 2026 at 03:00:03 PM
      - Thus my statement I'm willing to give him the season to see how the offense progresses/improves... which could include which personnel are used/featured. I haven't been thrilled with the construction either but you can't run a program firing people every two games* - By yarn September 14, 2026 at 03:05:52 PM
        
        Yeah, I have decided I'm just going to have to accept it... - By Rich September 14, 2026 at 03:12:13 PM
        
        I'm putting hope in his quotes from the offseason saying he tailors the scheme to his personnel... you can think all offseason/fall camp something is working great and then find out in the first few weeks you need to adjust. For all our sanity's sake I hope your fears are wrong :)* - By yarn September 14, 2026 at 03:19:19 PM
      - Manuel Beigel and Jalen Hoffman are simply in our best 11 on offense. (nm) - By suede September 14, 2026 at 03:04:49 PM
  - I also do not understand the benching of Zack Marshall. "we run weird Rhino players because we have no TEs." Zack Marshall is a perfectly good TE! * - By Nikos September 14, 2026 at 02:50:48 PM
    - I'd love to run more I formation. Sadly no FB either.* - By el fuego September 14, 2026 at 03:03:23 PM
    - My analogy.... - By Rich September 14, 2026 at 02:57:36 PM
      - I agree. if we had a typical WR room I wouldn't care as much. but Marsh Buchanan Ffrench Moa Browder Washington Goodwin...that is a lot of recruiting pedigree - By Nikos September 14, 2026 at 03:05:29 PM
        
        Ffrench, Johnson and Moa have about 5 snaps combined this year. Goodwin has 40-45. Beigel has 55. Hoffman has about 55* - By Rich September 14, 2026 at 03:16:47 PM
        
        yeah. you could maybe talk me into Hoffman. he at least has been on offense his whole career. Beigel over WR3? no way * - By Nikos September 14, 2026 at 03:18:10 PM
        
        Marshall, Hansen, Tonielli, Bonner and yes even Hoffman s/b a good TE room... - By Rich September 14, 2026 at 03:21:08 PM