Ty, Conrich: so like in N. MI growing up it was pretty posh, you go in walloon, charlevoix, lake michigan, wherever. The ski hills are 400 feet but you get good powder. Camping is solid, but there's no real mountains. all of MI is nice, not just TC/Petoskey area

Posted on August 13, 2026 at 10:33:48 PM by Daytripper (edited August 13, 2026 at 10:39:22 PM)

Kzoo had quite a few amazing little swimming holes. Michigan rocks in the summer but the shoulder seasons are just OK and the winter, well, it's OK I guess. And it's just not that big so spots can get over crowded. Seems hard to make money there, TC is like a time warp still imo. Just going there back in 2023 it felt like 2013. Doubt it's changed too much.

I usually tell people the PNW is like the Great Lakes, just way bigger in scale on everything, ocean and sound instead of lakes, huge mountains instead of large hills.

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At Mt Rainier - By Daytripper August 13, 2026 at 10:17:54 PM
- Beautiful picture. Sad story.* - By LewisBullox August 14, 2026 at 12:10:11 AM
- /low whistle. That's gorgeous. Sorry about your buddy.* - By Alpo August 13, 2026 at 10:20:08 PM
  - PNW is special place* - By Daytripper August 13, 2026 at 10:21:44 PM
    - When I took that job in Portland, it hadn't rained in LA for 9 fucking months. It was dry, dusty, brown, smoggy, unusually hot. My commutes were hell. I went up to Portland to interview and it was like the fucking scene in Wizard of Oz. Color! Fresh air! Green plants! Life! I'll always remember that - By jjwalker August 14, 2026 at 01:04:52 AM
      - I had a similar Dr. Grant sees a brachiosaurus moment when I drove through the Columbia River Gorge during our move to Portland for my wife's fellowship year.* - By Bluebuck August 14, 2026 at 06:27:10 AM
    - It really is. We have a surprising amount of natural beauty here, but it doesn't compare. So sorry about your friend.* - By Bluebuck August 13, 2026 at 10:28:03 PM
      - Ty, Conrich: so like in N. MI growing up it was pretty posh, you go in walloon, charlevoix, lake michigan, wherever. The ski hills are 400 feet but you get good powder. Camping is solid, but there's no real mountains. all of MI is nice, not just TC/Petoskey area - By Daytripper August 13, 2026 at 10:33:48 PM
        
        Seems hard to make money? - By bluejohn August 13, 2026 at 11:18:56 PM
        
        Economy is not great for non boomers in N. MI* - By Daytripper August 13, 2026 at 11:25:37 PM

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Ty, Conrich: so like in N. MI growing up it was pretty posh, you go in walloon, charlevoix, lake michigan, wherever. The ski hills are 400 feet but you get good powder. Camping is solid, but there's no real mountains. all of MI is nice, not just TC/Petoskey area