Both*

Posted on August 19, 2026 at 04:59:47 PM by Rich

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Question about Trump's lying - By danny August 19, 2026 at 04:50:50 PM
- Both and a lot of 'he's exaggerating' and 'he's taken out of context' and 'we know what he meant' - By Rabbit August 19, 2026 at 07:01:42 PM
- too stupid* - By Poster P August 19, 2026 at 06:00:06 PM
- I think people saying followers (mostly) believe underestimate Iran. It matters to them due to gas prices and Trump's been wrong re winning/peace so many times they can't miss it.* - By ftb August 19, 2026 at 05:37:24 PM
- I read a good article once about the difference between a liar and a bullshitter, Trump’s the ultimate bullshitter. A liar knows they’re lying, a bullshitter often doesn’t know or care, as long as it fits their narrative. I’d say, by now, they’re mostly numb to it. * - By Mark II August 19, 2026 at 05:17:34 PM
- Those aren’t necessarily discrete groups. Lots of “savvy” cumstains start as B, but turn into A because they are surrounded by dumbfucks and cultists - By brick August 19, 2026 at 05:11:49 PM
- People drink the sand because they don’t know the difference - President Andrew Sheppard* - By cp August 19, 2026 at 05:06:11 PM
- Base: Mostly A. Money men: Mostly B although Ackman et al have probably drunk some Kool-Aid by this point* - By Paul August 19, 2026 at 05:01:26 PM
  - Just different parts of his base. Trump has support of oligarchs and Wall Street. They should be considered his base as well. * - By bluejohn August 19, 2026 at 05:40:05 PM
- Both* - By Rich August 19, 2026 at 04:59:47 PM
  - Agree* - By EricP August 19, 2026 at 05:01:46 PM
- Mostly A related to the fact that people just believe what they want to believe.* - By mattb August 19, 2026 at 04:57:03 PM
- My read is that it's a mixture of both, but the real diehards are B. They're so consumed by grievance and hatred that they don't care that Trump lies. He hates the people they hate. (nm) - By suede August 19, 2026 at 04:53:43 PM
- Now predominantly the 2nd. It's not that his followers know what's going on, but at this point they know he's lying. It's still worth it to them, for various reasons.* - By ftb August 19, 2026 at 04:53:43 PM
- IMO, depends on the lie - By mgaelster August 19, 2026 at 04:53:24 PM