Bobby Abreu?

Posted on August 5, 2026 at 02:31:56 PM by KeiTh (edited August 5, 2026 at 02:34:24 PM)

Do you think he should be in the HoF as well?

I'd argue that a 121 OPS+ as a 1B is not lock at all. That's merely good, not great and not HoF. The fielding is what makes him a fringy guy.

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Was Lou Whitaker a better player than Keith Hernandez? Explain with other than WAR.* - By MasterBates August 5, 2026 at 02:09:20 PM
- That’s hard to answer since one guy was a 1B and the other was a 2B. Hernandez was a key starter on two WS champs - By mgaelster August 5, 2026 at 02:44:06 PM
- Very similar caliber of players at their peak. - By KeiTh August 5, 2026 at 02:20:20 PM
  - In addition... - By KeiTh August 5, 2026 at 02:27:50 PM
    - He has a career OPS+ of 128, that is good, period. Non-juicer, should be a lock when you throw in his defense. He was part of the Pittsburgh cocaine trials.* - By MasterBates August 5, 2026 at 02:30:31 PM
      - Bobby Abreu? - By KeiTh August 5, 2026 at 02:31:56 PM
        
        He juiced without a doubt, so no.* - By MasterBates August 5, 2026 at 02:34:07 PM
        
        Based on...? - By KeiTh August 5, 2026 at 02:34:51 PM
        
        The size of his head. Based on stats, he is better than a shitload already in so yes.* - By MasterBates August 5, 2026 at 02:37:37 PM
        
        ok but you can't really vote on the HoF based on head size or say that makes it without a doubt but I digress - By KeiTh August 5, 2026 at 02:46:42 PM
        
        Incorrect, they have exactly the same OPS+.* - By MasterBates August 5, 2026 at 03:03:35 PM
        
        Oops again. I have too many tabs open - By KeiTh August 5, 2026 at 03:11:38 PM
  - Scandalously, Lou is not in the HOF. Then again, the HOF is complete bullshit.* - By Ev August 5, 2026 at 02:25:33 PM
    - Oops I'm a dummy - By KeiTh August 5, 2026 at 02:30:29 PM
- I would have given an unequivocal yes before I actually looked at Hernandez’s stats. Both should be in the HOF. If Lou was better, it’s because 2nd is a harder position. - By Ev August 5, 2026 at 02:13:28 PM
  - Upon further review, Hernandez was better. Shit. I feel dirty.* - By Ev August 5, 2026 at 02:16:36 PM
  - Agree but KH is arguably the best defensive firstbaseman of all time and his OPS+ is significantly higher.* - By MasterBates August 5, 2026 at 02:15:47 PM
    - best defensive first baseman is like being the tallest midget* - By DoctorD August 5, 2026 at 05:27:25 PM
    - Hernandez is undervalued because he didn't hit for power as much as other first basemen* - By Rich August 5, 2026 at 02:24:23 PM