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New england has historically been way more expensive and QoL has not been that much higher in Great Lakes states unless you can buy into a nice suburb.

Posted on September 13, 2026 at 09:20:11 PM by harbaughdyssey

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• I don’t LOVE love winter, but it amazes me the lengths to which people will go to avoid it… - By Craig September 13, 2026 at 08:47:06 PM
  • I don't hate winter, but I do love being able to just throw on some flip-flops, shorts, and a tee-shirt to go do what I want to do - By WolvBlue September 13, 2026 at 10:10:09 PM
  • for most people winter completely blows ass. * - By plug September 13, 2026 at 09:43:43 PM
  • I don’t hate winter, but I prefer living in Florida during it. 7-10 days around Christmas is sufficient. * - By Mark II September 13, 2026 at 09:37:52 PM
  • I’m with you on this, but the advent of air conditioning makes the south and the terrible heat of the summer much more manageable.* - By mjhollen September 13, 2026 at 09:34:17 PM
  • I moved from MI to FL six years ago and absolutely love it. I love MI, but the winters suck.* - By apblue September 13, 2026 at 09:30:16 PM
  • New england has historically been way more expensive and QoL has not been that much higher in Great Lakes states unless you can buy into a nice suburb. - By harbaughdyssey September 13, 2026 at 09:20:11 PM
  • in hot humid places you don’t have to shovel a driveway or get salt in your house - By DoctorD September 13, 2026 at 09:02:27 PM
    • and you don't have to kick snow boogers off your car* - By Daytripper September 13, 2026 at 09:03:23 PM
  • Get back to me when arthritis creeps into you body* - By tem September 13, 2026 at 09:00:46 PM
  • I really don't get bothered by weather. Good weather, bad weather, cold, rain, heat, humidity - it all passes. - By Alpo September 13, 2026 at 08:59:02 PM
    • Same. SAD can be mitigated if you get outside because even cloudy days it’s extremely bright. If you stay indoors you are doomed even in sunbelt* - By harbaughdyssey September 13, 2026 at 09:23:18 PM
    • bro you go to mexico for two weeks every winter - By Daytripper September 13, 2026 at 09:00:12 PM
      • Yeah we just started that a few years ago. Its great, dont get me wrong, but for the previous 35 +years I was just fine.* - By Alpo September 13, 2026 at 09:19:32 PM
  • I lived in New Orleans and the hot humid summers were 1,000,000 times worse than winter in Detroit. Moved back and I'm not the least bit sorry. * - By Falco September 13, 2026 at 08:56:44 PM
  • For me March in SE MI is very much like Sept in Austin. On the whole I prefer MI and four true seasons.* - By LewisBullox September 13, 2026 at 08:55:19 PM
  • Completely agree. I'll take winter over a brutal humid southern summer * - By wingedvictory September 13, 2026 at 08:53:43 PM
    • Yea but the west coast exists* - By Daytripper September 13, 2026 at 08:54:37 PM
      • True, but generally much more expensive*** - By Craig September 13, 2026 at 09:36:17 PM
  • Especially if you can work from home on like the especially shitty days, which everyone who possibly can should be able to do so... - By jjwalker September 13, 2026 at 08:53:42 PM
  • I don't like it. Plan was always to take at least a couple trips to break it up after we moved back to MI. But...we had the means so we snowbird it. I really enjoy walking the beach every day instead of bundling up just to get the mail* - By EricP September 13, 2026 at 08:52:07 PM
    • Old seattle joke i heard soon after moving here - By Daytripper September 13, 2026 at 08:56:43 PM
  • I live in the Cleveland area. I have a nice big home in the burbs. It is green and beautiful from April-Oct, then orange and beautiful through mid Nov. I viscerally hate winter. - By Bluebuck September 13, 2026 at 08:51:57 PM
    • I don't mind December. It is not that cold and early winter adds to the holiday charm. January is real cold but I don't mind one month of hibernation after the busy fall/holidays... - By Rich September 13, 2026 at 10:11:22 PM
    • C'mon, December is white and beautiful, you gotta give us that. The novelty and beauty of snow wears off about 30 seconds into the new year though.* - By jjwalker September 13, 2026 at 08:55:21 PM
      • I would like Midwest winter if it lasted for 2-3 weeks.* - By Bluebuck September 13, 2026 at 08:56:49 PM
        • That's a Virginia winter* - By SmilingChewbacca September 13, 2026 at 08:59:44 PM
          • Was going to say North Carolina * - By tem September 13, 2026 at 09:01:35 PM
            • Probably more accurate* - By SmilingChewbacca September 13, 2026 at 09:24:11 PM
    • Nailed it* - By Daytripper September 13, 2026 at 08:54:20 PM
  • Yes, winter sucks. I grew up in a place where you routinely had to avoid doing things because you'd die on the roads or the road was covered in 3 feet of snow. It snowed in May. It snowed in Sep. - By Daytripper September 13, 2026 at 08:50:42 PM
    • Yeah, my wife grew up near Cadillac MI. It could be like that, but it isn’t anymore*** - By Craig September 13, 2026 at 09:35:08 PM
    • Those were the old days. Climate change means we get winter from New Year's day to St. Patrick's Day. * - By Falco September 13, 2026 at 09:08:26 PM
      • yea snows and melts, insane as someone old enough to see a 5 foot snow wall every winter in the 90s* - By Daytripper September 13, 2026 at 09:53:46 PM

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