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Well Vernon, if you could have played a better CF you'd be a lot higher. Guy was a notorious train wreck in the OF even in his good hitting seasons*

Posted on September 22, 2026 at 02:58:11 PM by Daytripper

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Vernon Wells: The more I see of WAR, the more I’m convinced the algorithm was NOT made by someone of color* - By stormhit September 22, 2026 at 02:55:30 PM
- As sabermetrics has developed more and more over the last 40 years, one of the most dramatic trends has been the devaluation of stolen bases to nearly zero - By GlassOnion September 22, 2026 at 03:58:19 PM
  - To piggyback on this the best runners in MLB, not just the fastest, but best baserunners, might be able to accumulate +8 runs a year, at absolute best, this is roughly .8WAR. It's just really fucking hard to add a lot of value running - By Daytripper September 22, 2026 at 04:58:26 PM
  - I might tweak that to say, analytics showed that the value of a stolen base is dwarfed by the negative value associated with a baserunning out - By brick September 22, 2026 at 04:38:54 PM
  - that's why they changed the rules to make stolen bases much easier last year and saw a large bump in the total number of steals - By DoctorD September 22, 2026 at 04:20:31 PM
- I could have told you so 55 years ago * -- Edwin Starr - By GlassOnion September 22, 2026 at 03:43:52 PM
- The Temptations agree.* - By ftb September 22, 2026 at 03:39:47 PM
- Lol. Somebody should show Wells Ozzie Smith’s bWAR* - By brick September 22, 2026 at 03:03:49 PM
  - What is bWAR? Black WAR?** - By xcheck September 22, 2026 at 03:15:26 PM
    - There are two mainstream WAR formulas, the one Baseball Reference uses and the one Fan Graphs uses. FG's is fWAR, B-Ref's is bWAR* - By Daytripper September 22, 2026 at 03:16:45 PM
      - Is there a dWAR for Dominicans?** - By xcheck September 22, 2026 at 03:19:46 PM
        
        gWAR is both WAR for Greek players and a heavy metal band with outlandish costumes* - By brick September 22, 2026 at 03:32:35 PM
        
        Lol* - By jjwalker September 22, 2026 at 05:31:53 PM
        
        Seldom used. Eric Karros and Milt Pappas. Thats about it** - By xcheck September 22, 2026 at 03:38:46 PM
        
        Gus Triandos, Nick Markakis.* - By Ev September 22, 2026 at 04:42:12 PM
        
        I assume Youkilis is the career leader being the Greek God of Walks and all that* - By DoctorD September 22, 2026 at 03:43:17 PM
        
        Actually not Greek, despite the nickname.* - By Ev September 22, 2026 at 04:42:55 PM
        
        I know, it was a joke. My sarcasm font was missing* - By DoctorD September 22, 2026 at 07:54:10 PM
  - Or Rickey's* - By Daytripper September 22, 2026 at 03:08:37 PM
    - Or Tim Raines' WAR. (nm) - By GritsGoBlue September 22, 2026 at 03:18:40 PM
- Well Vernon, if you could have played a better CF you'd be a lot higher. Guy was a notorious train wreck in the OF even in his good hitting seasons* - By Daytripper September 22, 2026 at 02:58:11 PM
  - 104 career OPS+. Average.* - By MasterBates September 22, 2026 at 03:02:58 PM

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