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it would be cool if democrats could do better at standing for what they believe in rather than constantly trimming sails

Posted on August 14, 2026 at 12:05:16 AM by chiwalker (edited August 14, 2026 at 12:32:08 AM)

Something has permeated the party. No one knows what democrats stand for because we don't either. Or if we do we are afraid to say it.

Consensus and listening to polls is a virtue but Dems have stretched it too far.

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I bet many of the people bitching about the DSA are the same ones who were decrying the protests of the israeli war... - By Pal August 13, 2026 at 11:30:01 PM
- Yep. And I'm 1 of those... tho not for the reasons you think. - By onb August 14, 2026 at 09:19:07 AM
- Those protests were not popular at the time. The democrats were destroyed in the next general election (though I’m assuming inflation was the big driver I fail to see how they helped). - By harbaughdyssey August 14, 2026 at 08:14:09 AM
  - Protests also ruined (or at least diminished) my daughter’s UM graduation, which as a 2020 HS grad was the only actual graduation ceremony she ever had - By WestSideBlue August 14, 2026 at 08:31:45 AM
- it would be cool if democrats could do better at standing for what they believe in rather than constantly trimming sails - By chiwalker August 14, 2026 at 12:05:16 AM
- I am not following this thread. I don't understand * - By Nikos August 13, 2026 at 11:49:02 PM
- The "Israeli War?" Where Hamas launched an attack into Gaza and massacred thousands of Israelis and took hundreds of them as hostages? That Israeli War? - By Alpo August 13, 2026 at 11:41:46 PM
  - I was with the Multinational Peacekeeping Forces in Beirut in 1983 ... - By Cutter August 14, 2026 at 07:15:53 AM
  - As discussed at length here before, Israel's response to the atrocities of 10/7 (Hamas bad) have proven to be (a) a cynical attempt from Netanyahu to remain in power after his security failure, (b) counterproductive to their stated aims, and (c) disproportionate in harm to the Gazan population. (nm - By suede August 14, 2026 at 06:39:05 AM
- I'm sorry but Israel policy isn't a key plank of Democratic politics. Trump is bombing Iran, not the DSA's fantasy in the Democratic coalition. You can take these anti - By Daytripper August 13, 2026 at 11:41:15 PM
  - The strongest swing state democrats (sherrod brown, Shapiro, fetterman) are all relatively strong Israel supporters* - By harbaughdyssey August 14, 2026 at 10:25:18 AM
- The war with Iran and Israel now becoming associated with Maga is what did that. Not Palestine* - By BBA August 13, 2026 at 11:40:32 PM
  - Yes* - By jjwalker August 14, 2026 at 12:52:31 AM
  - agreed but I think it's hard to move consensus and most Americans actually dgaf about the middle east. I wouldn't conflate politically and morally right, which I think is the OPs point* - By chiwalker August 14, 2026 at 12:41:15 AM
  - well said* - By Daytripper August 13, 2026 at 11:41:57 PM

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