The Victors

agreed but I think it's hard to move consensus and most Americans actually dgaf about the middle east. I wouldn't conflate politically and morally right, which I think is the OPs point*

Posted on August 14, 2026 at 12:41:15 AM by chiwalker

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• I bet many of the people bitching about the DSA are the same ones who were decrying the protests of the israeli war... - By Pal August 13, 2026 at 11:30:01 PM
  • Yep. And I'm 1 of those... tho not for the reasons you think. - By onb August 14, 2026 at 09:19:07 AM
  • Those protests were not popular at the time. The democrats were destroyed in the next general election (though I’m assuming inflation was the big driver I fail to see how they helped). - By harbaughdyssey August 14, 2026 at 08:14:09 AM
    • Protests also ruined (or at least diminished) my daughter’s UM graduation, which as a 2020 HS grad was the only actual graduation ceremony she ever had - By WestSideBlue August 14, 2026 at 08:31:45 AM
  • it would be cool if democrats could do better at standing for what they believe in rather than constantly trimming sails - By chiwalker August 14, 2026 at 12:05:16 AM
  • I am not following this thread. I don't understand * - By Nikos August 13, 2026 at 11:49:02 PM
  • The "Israeli War?" Where Hamas launched an attack into Gaza and massacred thousands of Israelis and took hundreds of them as hostages? That Israeli War? - By Alpo August 13, 2026 at 11:41:46 PM
    • I was with the Multinational Peacekeeping Forces in Beirut in 1983 ... - By Cutter August 14, 2026 at 07:15:53 AM
    • As discussed at length here before, Israel's response to the atrocities of 10/7 (Hamas bad) have proven to be (a) a cynical attempt from Netanyahu to remain in power after his security failure, (b) counterproductive to their stated aims, and (c) disproportionate in harm to the Gazan population. (nm - By suede August 14, 2026 at 06:39:05 AM
  • I'm sorry but Israel policy isn't a key plank of Democratic politics. Trump is bombing Iran, not the DSA's fantasy in the Democratic coalition. You can take these anti - By Daytripper August 13, 2026 at 11:41:15 PM
    • The strongest swing state democrats (sherrod brown, Shapiro, fetterman) are all relatively strong Israel supporters* - By harbaughdyssey August 14, 2026 at 10:25:18 AM
  • The war with Iran and Israel now becoming associated with Maga is what did that. Not Palestine* - By BBA August 13, 2026 at 11:40:32 PM
    • Yes* - By jjwalker August 14, 2026 at 12:52:31 AM
    • agreed but I think it's hard to move consensus and most Americans actually dgaf about the middle east. I wouldn't conflate politically and morally right, which I think is the OPs point* - By chiwalker August 14, 2026 at 12:41:15 AM
    • well said* - By Daytripper August 13, 2026 at 11:41:57 PM

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