Stieb was really good. I think of Stieb and Morris as the top 2 pitchers in the AL in the 80s for a while...

Posted on September 2, 2026 at 12:16:18 PM by Rich

I know there are others but they had a good rivalry of sorts.

What really puts Morris over the top is the qualitative stuff. 3 World Series (all wins), 5 All Star games, 5 top 5 CY Young finishes, 3 All Star game starts (2 others where he was the 2nd pitcher in) and a WS MVP award. And the 3rd WS and MVP is highly driven by the 1991 Twin 10 inning performance as Grits notes.

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Jack Morris would not be in the Hall of Fame if not for Game Seven of the '91 World Series. - By GritsGoBlue September 2, 2026 at 11:48:15 AM
- The guy who I’m surprised gets overlooked is David Cone - By y2wolv September 2, 2026 at 12:14:08 PM
  - Agreed. I would vote for him. (nm) - By GritsGoBlue September 2, 2026 at 01:50:22 PM
  - Yep, that 200 win total is a big deal for voters still.* - By MasterBates September 2, 2026 at 12:27:07 PM
- I don't disagree with this. I think Morris is a borderline HOFer. Not like Rizzuto or Baines, but I can see arguments against. As a Tiger fan, as I said - By Rich September 2, 2026 at 11:56:39 AM
  - Guys that come to mind are Jimmy King, Dennis Martinez, Dave Stieb, Steve Rogers, Johan Santana, with similar HOF cases but they won't get a whiff.* - By MasterBates September 2, 2026 at 12:02:17 PM
    - Stieb was really good. I think of Stieb and Morris as the top 2 pitchers in the AL in the 80s for a while... - By Rich September 2, 2026 at 12:16:18 PM
- Minnesota hasn't won shit in basketball or football either. That's pretty rough. At least the Pistons were 13 years later than that - By jjwalker September 2, 2026 at 11:56:26 AM
  - It's starting to wear off now but growing up when I did, I think of the Vikings as a team with a history of winning... - By Rich September 2, 2026 at 11:58:10 AM
    - I have to disagree with this - By syrfan September 2, 2026 at 12:12:48 PM
      - So maybe my initial thinking is still valid* - By Rich September 2, 2026 at 12:17:23 PM
  - And we have the good UM, and they don't.* - By jjwalker September 2, 2026 at 11:56:48 AM
- I agree with this. I think Dave Stieb was a better pitcher than Morris and maybe Steve Rogers too.* - By MasterBates September 2, 2026 at 11:51:17 AM
  - Certainly Hersheiser & Saberhagen, right?* - By brick September 2, 2026 at 12:41:37 PM

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Stieb was really good. I think of Stieb and Morris as the top 2 pitchers in the AL in the 80s for a while...